You are shorter than he or him?

You are shorter than ( he, him). Which is the correct one?

Both are correct.

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You are shorter than him.
You are shorter than he is.

Could you explain why both are correct?

Could you explain why both are correct?

I agree with you

I dont think “you are shorter than he” is so correct

they are not both correct, as a matter of fact. my dad got his masters in linguistics, and so from a young age, he taught me the correct usage.

here is your answer: “You are shorter than him,” is NOT correct, but everybody says it anways, and hardly anybody knows it’s not correct.

the correct way to say it is “You are shorter than he (is),” but nobody actually says that.

so in conclusion… if you want to be correct, say “you are shorter than he.” but if you want to fit in, say “you are shorter than him.”

: )

Could some native speaker say a word about it, please?
Because it’s not what I’ve learned…

By the way, Arasam22, it’s very upset nobody’s taught you that we start new sentense with a capital letter :wink:

Hello Steve88,

Here are some of my thoughts:

  1. You are shorter than he.
    In my opinion, only people who are blindly prescriptive will insist on this usage. The use of “he” in this sentence will tend to sound excessively formal and stilted in most contexts. If for no other reason than that, it might be seen as being incorrect when used in an informal context. In addition, since the word “than” can be used as both a conjunction and as a preposition, some may argue that it is actually grammatically incorrect since we use object pronouns after prepositions.

  2. You are shorter than him.
    Generally speaking, it is perfectly acceptable and normal to use “him” this way in everyday English. Some will ague that it is also formally grammatically correct because they view “than” as a preposition in the sentence. Examples of an object pronoun being used after the word “than” can be found in literary works by the likes of Shakespeare and Faulkner, for example. This sort of usage is nothing new in English.

  3. You are shorter than he is.
    This may often be a good alternative for either 1 or 2 because there should be no question that the word “than” is a conjunction in this version of the sentence. It will generally satisfy everybody’s taste in grammar. :lol:

Your dad sounds like a prescriptivist. How does he react when you use the word “anyways”? :wink:

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In my school years we were taught two variants: short and long, when comparing two objects.
e.g. You are shorter than he is = he is shorter than you
e.g. I dance better than you dance/do = I dance better than you
e.g. My dress is more beautiful than your dress is = My dress is more beautiful than yours.
e.g. He is smarter than I am = He is smarter than me.
e.g. We can paint faster than you can (paint) = We can paint faster than you.

The first (long) variant is more formal and is not used as widely as the other (short) one. However, both are correct, as far as I remember.

"You are shorter than he” does not sound right to me. As the Esl Expert mentioned above, personal pronouns are normally subjects in a sentence and are not to be used on their own after prepositions.

Hi I read in an English book that even some British linguists are unsure about what to say…
I will try to find that book so I can write here what they have written about sentences like that.
/Maria

ahhh now i feel like a jerk. :frowning:

btw… i am a native speaker, and my shift key doesn’t work very well…

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Best Regards

If you fill in a official exam or a TOEIC, TOEFL, IELTS paper you will find that “You are shorter than he is” is the correct answer and bring you the full mark; while generally speaking people will say “You are shorter than him” though it’s wrong in grammar.

Here is a website with the rules of comparison.

www.perfectyourenglish.com/grammar/comparision.htm

Quote:

“English Grammar”
Comparision using comparative adjectives and adverbs
To say that people, things etc are unequal in a particular way, we can use comparative adjectives/adverbs.

She is older than me.
Tom is taller than his brothers.
Iron is more useful than any other metal.
He is cleverer than her.

In an informal style, object pronouns are used after than. In a more formal style, subject pronouns are used usually with verbs.

He is cleverer than she is.
He earns more than I do.

I think this site can help people make their minds clear and find the correct answer about which one should be used in which case.

By the way, being an ignorant in using those grammatical terms such as “object pronouns” and “subject pronouns” I ask for you to show their examples while using them please.

As a last two remarks, I need to tell that “you are shorter than he” doesn’t seem correct in both formal and daily usage for me as well.

Regards

Subject pronouns are the ones that are subjects in the sentences.(nominative case)
e.g. He is smart;you are clever, they are wonderful.

Object pronouns are the ones that are objects in the sentence.
e.g.Maria likes him; Rodger wrote it; people love them.

Thank you very much for your taking time on making these explanations.

I am bound to admit that I would rather you began your message with at least a formal greeting.

Regards

Assuredly, “You are shorter than he is” and “You are shorter than him” are both standard and worthy of being accepted but the very difference lies between formality and informality. We encounter the former in formal speeches, written papers and presentations, though; the later is admissible in informal speeches and so forth. Given the fact that, we can see both of them in grammar books like advanced grammar in used by Martin Hewings, a practical English grammar by A.J. Thomson and A. V. Martinet and practical English usage by Michael Swan. The authors didn’t differentiate them and they all accepted that both are free from error or fault.