From all education in English I have had till now, I always learned about temporary regards of since only. Reading some posts at this site I wonder whether since has some objective regards too, hasn?t it?
When do you usually use since in an objective regard?
Your explanation makes sense, since I figured out the expanded use of since in your posts particular!
Conchita, don?t worry, there is enough mass at me, so that not as quick a steaming puddle from me will kept left only. But walking afterwards me you must take care not to slip on the slubber trace that I degull. :lol:
Since (from that moment on) I know the multiple use of “since” I?ve been using “since” more often for objective sense. Without punctuation after the given part of sentence?
Since learning that there are multiple uses for “since”, I also know that it isn?t that easy to understand! :shock:
“Weil” is more straightly refering to following reasons of circumstances or doing or sth. else or whatever and in my opinion more polite, albeit rarely used!
“Da” is more common used and has more than the meaning of refering to following reasons. “Da”, for me, is more informal and sometimes sounds bad. For instance, “Da da vorne Amy sitzt…” :? Sounds ridiculus, doesn?t it? Better would be: “Weil da vorne Amy sitzt…” 8)
But back to my “since” solutions, what does them sound like?
The verb “know” can be tricky to use with “since” (with the meaning of from that moment on).
If you say “I know”, that’s simple present tense and there is no indication in the verb tense of a time in the past where the knowing began. But you need that with “since”.
If you say “I knew”, that refers to a time in the past BUT it also indicates that the knowing is finished. :shock:
So, the only possibility would be to use the present perfect or to use a completely different verb to specifically refer to a point in the past (in this case, the starting point).
Examples (including “ever” just for added excitement… ;)) : Ever since I’ve known about the multiple uses of “since”, I?ve been using “since” more often… Ever since I noticed that “since” has multiple uses, I’ve been using “since” more often…
By the way, you mentioned you’d lost a lot of weight since it got so hot. What about your horses? Do horses also lose weight when it gets really hot?
Completing your sentence [color=blue]perfectly, I wasn?t aware that it is that complicated. Puuhhh… :shock: But for the moment I haven?t sweated out all the water only but also all my brains. So I leave this point for now and will return later. :roll:
If they do hard physical work for 9 hours a day they surely lose weight, particular when it gets hot. As for my horses, they hardly leave from their stables because they would have been attacked by the stable horses terribly. So they have summer holidays and feel fine.
Your sentences should use the simple past tense after “since” because the verbs “join” and “buy” refer to specific, complete actions in the past which mark the point in time when something else began.
Ever since I joined this forum, my English level has been rising.
Since I joined this forum, my English level has risen.
(Ever) since he bought a car, he hasn’t been able to visit us.
(The last sentence is grammatically correct, but I don’t understand the logic of the sentence. 8))
Putting the word “Ever” in front of “since”, makes it more likely that you will need the present perfect continuous in the second half of the sentence.
Note: raise is not normally used with “up” and the verb “raise” also always needs an object. Without an object, you should use rise (also without “up”).
You can’t use can or could in present perfect (or with any modal verb). In order to get the same meaning as “can” in the present perfect or with modal verbs, etc, you have to use “be able to” instead:
He can speak English.
He has been able to speak English since he was a child.
He will be able to speak English after he finishes the course.
You’re right, Tamara, about the use of a continuous tense after ‘ever since’. This expression means ‘from that time onwards’, ‘continually since that time’ and gives the idea of something happening gradually.
Now, as to Baraa’s second example, I’d put it like this:
Ever since he bought a car, he hasn’t been able to see us (can/could/been able to).
Amy, Conchita, thank you for the explanation and for the examples.
But could you give an example with ‘has been being’ and ‘hasn’t been being’ (??)
(that would be ‘the pure’ form of present perfect continuous for ‘to be’ – at least, in my understanding of the form.)
Some verbs aren’t used very often in any continuous tense and “be (able to)” is one of them. That’s one of the reasons why I wrote “more likely” and not “always”. 8) Sometimes the present perfect simple is better / necessary.
For example, you would never say “He has been being rich ever since he won the lottery.” :shock: Instead you would say “He has been rich ever since he won the lottery.”
Taking Baraa’s car sentence as an example, that sentence is better with present perfect simple in the second half — no matter whether you begin the sentence with “since” or “ever since” — because “be able to” is something that you normally would not use in any continuous tense:
Ever since he bought a car, he hasn’t been able to visit us.
If you want to use be as a continuous tense (“is being”, “has been being”, etc.), you should have an especially good reason for doing it. Did you have something specific in mind? :lol:
Amy, Conchita and Tamara: Thank you very much for all these explanations. I really appreciate it and it was so useful.
What I meant by my second sentence; Ever since he bought a car, he hasn’t been able to see us; is that I implied he became proud because he has got a car therefore he broke up with us and didn’t like to visit or see us any more because we are not from his level of richness.