The conjunction "AND"

Hello!

How are you?

Example: He admitted having put
some poison in her drink ‘and’
she passed away.

Can you tell me if the usage of
the conjunction ‘and’ is
right here? I hope you know
what I mean with the sentence.
I mean
‘he admitted having put some poison in her
drink and she passed away in that
very moment’

SHould I use another one?

Thanks a lot!

Hi Jesus

It seems a little strange to connect these two ideas with “and” unless the admission (rather than the poison) was the cause of her passing away. Is that what you want to say?

Amy

‘He admitted having put some poison
in her drink, AND she passed away’

What I am trying to say is
that when he admitted having put
some posion, she passed away. She
passed away when he admitted it.

Obviously, the cause of her dead would have
been the poison,
but there was a cause before (the
cause you mentioned= she passed away
because of his admission). I know it seems
impossible, something unreal…

Anyway, ‘and’ keeps on sounding quite strange
to me. Any other option? I think I?m
really turning Spanish into English.

Thanks a lot, Amy!

Hi Jesus1,

If you mean that one thing was the result of another, you need to strengthen the conjunction to give some relationship with the two actions: the admission of the poisoning and the passing away. I would therefore say: and as a result.

Alan

Hi Jesus

That’s what I see as the problem with the sentence, Jesus. The cause is not completely obvious when you connect “admit” and “die”. And that’s what your first sentence does: The word “and” connects “admit” to “pass away”.

It sounds like she could possibly have had a heart attack (and died) because she was so shocked by the admission. Maybe the poison itself wasn’t lethal, but the knowledge of having been poisoned was.

What about just omitting “admit” completely:
He poisoned her drink and she died.
After he poisoned her drink, she died.

You can talk about his admission in a different sentence.

Amy

Hi! Thanks for all your replies.

I think Alan?s one sounds fine.

Amy, that?s what I wanted to
say. I mean, connecting ‘admit’ and ‘pass away’.

‘She passed away because of his admission’.

Yes, the poison wasn?t lethal enough. So,
she died before this one took effect. For instance,
a heart attack as you said. The heart attack
was produced by his admission.

Then, is it ‘and as a result’, as Alan said first,
right?

I think it?s fine.

Oh my God! :lol:

Thanks a lot again!

Jes?s

Oh my God, Jesus! Why didn’t you just answer my question with “yes”? :lol: 8) :lol:

Amy

Maybe, a little bit late. Yes, Amy!. Yes!.

Or do you prefer Yeah!?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Thanks a million, anyway!

Hi! Thanks again!

Well, just curiosity. Which verb do you use
in English to mean “he admitted something
to himself” Do you know what I mean?

I mean, You have done something ‘wrong or not’
and you then admit having done it. But
you don?t tell anybody, you just tell it
to yourself.

Example:

He couldn?t stand having stolen
his mother, but after admitting (to himself?)
having done it and deciding not to do it
anymore, he really felt good.

Thanks a lot!

Jes?s

Hi Jes?s :wink:

Just a few points to ponder:

He couldn?t stand having stolen his mother

That sounds like he secretly took his mother from his father. :lol:

You should say either
He couldn?t stand having stolen from his mother

  • OR possibly -
    He couldn?t stand having robbed his mother

If he couldn’t stand it, then he seems to have already been quite aware that he did it. So, why would he need to admit to himself that he did it?

Do you want to say that he finally admitted to himself that it was one of the worst things he’d ever done?

Amy

Yes, that?s what I want to say.
Maybe I didn?t give a good example.
Can you say one using the verb admit?

1.- It?s ‘admit to himself’, isn?t it?

2.- ‘Admit to himself’ goes followed
by an-ing verb as well?

Thanks, Amy!

Hi Jesus

Yes, saying “admit to himself” is fine.

This was a problem in your example.
You can say “He admitted having done it.
But inserting “to himself” really doesn’t work in this sentence.

Instead, I’d suggest saying (for example):

He admitted to himself that he’d never done anything worse.”

Amy

  1. Yes.

  2. Yes, it’s ‘admit’ + ing. or + that

Still, I would put it differently and use verbs, like:

deal with, face or come to terms with

After coming to terms with his action/with what he had done.

Hello! How is it going?

Can you correct this sentence, please?

Did I use ‘admitted to himself’ correctly
here?

Example: ‘He admitted to himself having
given birth to the pain ( =a creation of
his mind) and as a result this one disappeared’

Thanks a million!

Jes?s

Hi Jesus

I see you’re still valiantly trying to use “He admitted to himself” :smiley:

Basically, I probably will not like any sentence that has the following construction:

He admitted to himself followed by having done

I would recommend not using this construction at all.

He admitted having done” is fine. But it is not OK to insert “to himself” in that sentence, in my opinion. If you want to use “to himself”, then you should use a different type of sentence. For example:
He admitted to himself that he had done…

Amy

Hi! How are you feeling?

Thanks a million!

Well, don?t be upset, please! :oops:

Yesterday, I was thinking about all this and
I came to the following conclusion:

Isn?t someone who is admitting having
done something
admitting to himself that he has done
that thing?

I mean, when you admit having done
something, didn?t you previously admit to
yourself that you had done that thing?

So, where?s the need of using
“admitted to himself” if he
“admitted” that thing? :roll:

I am really in a dead end! :cry:

Somebody help me!

Thanks a lot!

Hi Jesus

If you admit something to yourself, that means you had been telling yourself (probably for a long time) that X was true, and then finally you admit to yourself that Y is true.
For example:

Let’s say he’s a musician and he’d always believed he could become a famous rock star. He joined a band and played in the band for years. The band recorded a few CDs, but none were big hits. The band never became famous. Finally, years later:
He finally admitted to himself that he would never become a famous rock star.

If you admit having done something, you usually admit to someone else that you did something.

Does that help?

Amy