Let’s take the first question:
1./ j /
This denotes the phonic sound that you will find in the tables on the links I provided. Here’s a screenshot from one link:
From this comparative list it should be easy to see that the phonic sound [j] actually relates to the letter y as it is sounded in the word ‘yacht’.
To transcribe the word thieves, you have to break it apart into its phoneme letters:
th / ie/ v/ es then find the relative phoneme sounds in the list
th as the sound in three = phonic sound: [θ]
ie as the sound in see = phonic sound: [iː]
v as the sound in voice = phonic sound: [v]
es as the sound in zoo = phonic sound: [z]
so thieves is phonically transcribed as [θiːvz]
You work in reverse for the last set, starting with the phonic sound and matching them to the standard alphabet letters.
[swet] = s/w/ea (as it sounds in met)/t = sweat
The last set is more difficult as it requires some feel for the language because there is more than one letter or combination of letters that can be made with one sound.
You can discuss about English Grammar in this forums.
But in the topic I am discussing about Phonetics.
For example if you want to discuss about something you don’t know, for example let’s say you want to discuss about Nouns, so you better make a new thread/topic for this…
You can make a new topic by simply clicking on [color=blue]new[color=orange]topic at the right-corner, see the image below:-
You have to remember that the focus is on the sounds, not the letters.
cat and black both have short vowel sounds.
Father has a longer vowel sound - listen carefully and you’ll find that the ‘a’ doesn’t sound the same as it does in the other two words.
Sorry, but I’m having problems recording on the forum, so I can’t demonstrate vocally. I can’t find the problem but the audio files ‘skip’ and won’t play without stuttering.
Please,
Is there any simple and easy way to study this?
The transcribtions are so difficult and I can’t guess the words for them, please is there a way to study this in a simple way?
There are not a vast number of different IPA symbols required for English. Presumably in your materials you have a list of the ones you are supposed to know, plus some example words. You may find it useful to look up words in one of the online English dictionaries that gives you a recording of someone speaking the word. Then you can listen to the recordings over and over again until you are familiar with the sounds associated with the symbols. Be aware that dictionaries will usually use either a British English accent or an American English accent, so it may be best to decide from the outset which one you want to follow.
Sorry, not to my knowledge. This is quite advanced.
Don’t try to run before you can walk though! I suggest you do the exercises the right way round though, starting with the ones that help familiarise you with the phonic symbols.
The second set - where the word is given and you have to find the phonic equivalent are easier than the third set, which is very complex. However, that’s not to say the second set is easy. You really have to listen to the sounds so that you can break them apart correctly. (With the second set there is a very easy way to find the answers, but when you figure out what it is, please don’t use it, other than to check whether the answer you have worked out is correct or not. I don’t think such a method exists for the third set, so you will need the skills you acquire when doing the first set.)
This is time consuming and requires careful speech and listening - you have to know how to pronounce these words and identify the phonemes before you can even begin to look for the relevant phonetics, so don’t get discouraged just because you can’t do it on day 1.
It shows the word “beige”, the IPA pronunciation /beɪʒ/, and you can click to hear either UK or US pronunciation. Isn’t this kind of thing useful for what you’re doing? Maybe I misunderstood it…
You didn’t misunderstand, Dozy.
It’s what I meant by this:
For the second set, it’s possible to simply copy the phonetic verson, but without mastering the second set properly , the third set would be almost impossible to get to grips with.
Can you please tell me what is the Phonetic Symol for these words?
[color=red]afraid -------- ə or æ and why? and isn’t this the same as [color=red]apple?
Lond[color=red]on, in my book it’s stated ə , why?
breakf[color=red]ast------- shouldn’t this be a:? it’s stated in the book ə may I know why?
