Hi,
- She not like me
- You not tell him
- She have no evidence to substantiate!
Why the above not in use, I always see the indicative subjective in use.I rarely see thesubjective.
Is #3 allowed to be used in modern or idiomatic English?.
Please assist.
Another duplicate answered elsewhere.
I assume you mean “subjunctive”, but “indicative subjunctive” does not appear to make sense. Indicative" is one mood; subjunctive is another.
None of those are grammatical as sentences because there is nothing to justify the use of the subjunctive. It is possible in formal English to embed them in a subjunctive context; for example “I insist that you not tell him” (though in everyday English people would say “I insist that you don’t tell him”, at least in BrE).
By the way, you still seem to be posting duplicate messages quite a lot. Do you know how this is happening?
Hi Dozy thanks for your assistance. I also really detest why sometimes my posts come in multiples, it seems my computer has an internal problem, the truth is I just click on the “send message” ones but but turn out to display in triples and in multiples, please forgive me is not intentional.
One more assistance Dozy. Please could you assist me to learn how to provide a link for someone to click on it and to learn what the link has?. Thanks dear.
To post a link to a website here, just use this syntax: Link Name
Where ‘Uri’ - the link itself.
Sample:
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Also, you can simply type or paste the URL directly into the post. Anything that has the correct syntax for a URL will be automatically made into a link. Normally it’s easiest to copy a URL from the address bar of the browser and then paste it into the message.
Hello, Mr. Adu:
I am glad that you want to use the subjunctive. It is alive and well here in the United States.
Please remember: the subjunctive refers to a non-real situation. It refers only to a wish.
Let’s say that Mona likes you very much, but you do not like her. You might tell a friend: It is very important that she not like me. Every time that I see her, I will turn my head.
As you can see, when you say “It is very important that …,” that is only your wish.
It is important that there be peace in this world. (As you know, there is no peace in many parts of the world.)
It is important that your son come to school on time. (It is important to the speaker, but maybe the boy will continue to come late.)
James
Hi, thank you all, God help all.
But mr. james is it that one can only use the subjunctive to express wishes only? as you made me to understand?
Please confirm.
Please check this ongoing conversation with my subjunctive usage:
Z- How are you? is being high time.
B- I am pretty good. Nice to meet you again!
Z- I hope your family be fine.
B- Every one is doing good.
Z- If I may ask, does your boss still put up his weird behaviour?
B- Not now a days.
Z- I pray he be stop.
B- We all pray he be stop!
B- send my regards to your brother.
Z- Okay.
Z- We will part for now. I got to check my mail out.
B- We will meet some other time. Bye.
Z- Bye.
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I’ve got to check my mail.
(Overlapped with James.)
Z- How are you? is being high time.
B- I’m pretty good. Nice to meet you again!
Z- I hope your family is fine.
B- Everyone is doing well.
Z- If I may ask, does your boss still put up with his [whose?] weird behaviour?
“still put up his weird behaviour” does not make much sense; I guessed you had missed out the word “with”, but I’ve just seen that James’s suggestion above may be more what you meant…
B- Not nowadays.
Z- I pray he stops. [who stops what?] [“pray” is quite a serious and strong word. In many circumstances it would be more usual to say “I wish he would stop” or “I hope he stops”.]
B- We all pray he stops!
B- Send my regards to your brother.
Z- Okay.
Z- I have to go now. I’ve got to check my mail out.
B- We’ll meet again some other time. Bye.
Z- Bye.
Hi Ebenezer Adu,
Here are my line-by-line comments:
(Dozy posted while I was typing. I agree with his comments as well.)
Z- How are you? is being high time.
[color=blue]“How are you?” is not subjunctive. “is being high time” does not make any sense.
B- I am pretty good. [color=blue](This is OK for informal use. In spoken English, you would normally say “I’m” rather than “I am”.) Nice to meet you again! [color=blue]It would be much more common to say “Nice to see you again.”
Z- I hope your family be fine.
[color=blue]The subjunctive is not appropriate here.It would be normal to say “I hope your family is fine.” (indicative)
B- Every one is doing good.
[color=blue]“Everyone” should be written as a single word. “Everyone is doing good” is an informal version of “Everyone is doing well” or “Everyone is (doing) fine”.
Z- If I may ask, does your boss still put up his weird behaviour? [color=blue]The verb phrase ‘put up’ does not work in this context. You could say this: “Is your boss’s behavior still weird?”
B- Not now a days.
[color=blue]“Nowadays” is one word. Instead of using ‘nowadays’, you could use ‘lately’ or ‘recently’.
Z- I pray he be stop.
[color=blue]This sentence doesn’t make much sense in the context since the last speaker has already stated that the boss has stopped his weird behavior (in the context I gave). In the context I gave above, it would make more sense to say something such as: “I hope he has stopped for good.”
However, if you want to use the subjunctive in this sentence (in a different, more appropriate context), you can do it one of two ways – but not the way you did it.
- Present subjunctive, active voice: I pray he stop.
- Present subjunctive, passive voice: I pray he be stopped.
B- We all pray he be stop! [color=blue]
(See my comments above.)
B- [color=blue]Send my regards to your brother.
[color=blue]You can also say “Give my regards to your brother” or “Say hello to your brother for me,” for example.
Z- Okay.
Z- We will part for now. [color=blue]This is not especially natural. It would be better to say something such as “Well, I’ve got to go now”. I got to check my mail out.[color=blue] You do not need the word ‘out’. Saying “I gotta check may mail” is not formally correct, but is often used in informal conversation. It would be grammatically correct to say “I have to go now” or “I’ve got to go now.”
B- We will meet some other time.
[color=blue]It would be more common to just say “See you (later/some other time)”.
Bye.
Z- Bye.
Hi, Esl expert.
Can I replace I pray he stop In case I used it in the conversation by pray he be stopped?
Are they interchangeable?
They aren’t the same. The first sees the action of stopping as coming from the boss (The boss stops himself). The second sees the action coming from someone else. (Someone else stops the boss)
Also, at least in British English, “I pray he stop” and “I pray he be stopped” are not really conversational sentences. It would sound a bit like you were reading from an old book.
Beees, please see.
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He is a nice guy.
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He was a nice guy.
#2 is the past of #1. -
I pray he stop(active voice of the present subjunctive)
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I pray he be stopped(passive voice of the present subjunctive).
If #4 is the passive of #3 but each has quite different meaning then caution must be taken with the active and passive voice of the subjunctive.
Thanks Beees for your assistance. Lest I forget thanks Dozy you’re dear
I don’t see the parallel you appear to be trying to make between 1 and 2 with 3 and 4.
The same difference in meaning applies whenever you use the active and passive voice.
The branch broke. (simple past tense, active voice)
The branch was broken. (sinple past tense, passive voice)
The second indicates an action by someone or somthing on the branch. The first does not indicate that.
Hi, Beees.
Thanks for your elucidation.