Meaning of "Turn up"

Test No. [color=blue]incompl/advan-6 “Phrasal Verbs”, question 2

Don’t worry we’ll have to wait a little longer because I’m sure he’ll soon.

(a) turn up
(b) turn in
(c) turn into
(d) turn down

Test No. [color=blue]incompl/advan-6 “Phrasal Verbs”, answer 2

Don’t worry we’ll have to wait a little longer because I’m sure he’ll turn up soon.

Correct answer: (a) turn up


Hello Alan! Explain please! Does “Turn up” mean ‘Show up’?
Many thanks
Pioneer

Hi,

Yes, that’s right - it means to appear/arrive unexpectedly.

Alan

Suppose you are waiting for the thief at the police station, a policeman can say: Don’t worry we’ll have to wait a little longer because I’m sure he’ll turn in soon.

Someone applied for a job try but he was in the waiting list ,in order to calm him a friend said: Don’t worry we’ll have to wait a little longer because I’m sure he’ll turn down soon.

Hi Nabilchamlal,

I think we need to get these phrasal verbs explained correctly -

turn up means arrive unexpectedly

turn in usually means go to sleep/go to bed

turn down usually means refuse/reject

Alan

in my first sentence turn the theif in means took him to the police.
in the second one is reject as Alan said.
and the point is the three answers are right Alain.

Hi Nabilchamlal,

You haven’t used ‘turn in’ with its second meaning in the right way. This is how you spell ‘thief’. Why do you tell me what I have written is correct - I know it is correct!

Alan

You know Alain, you have the intuition to detect spelling mistake even I have written thief correctly in the first sentence. But you need to focus more on the meaning .I’m telling you that your exercise can have three answers and I illustrated this by examples, do you get now?

sorry do you get it
I m used to chat

No, I don’t get anything you say. You recommend I pay attention to the meaning in your message. I would if I could find a meaning.

Alan

Nabil, your sentences do not make sense. As they stand, the first one reads, we will have to wait because he will go to bed soon, in which case the police would not find the thief. The second is incorrect.

Here is how they can be corrected:

Don’t worry we’ll have to wait a little longer because I’m sure he’ll be turned in soon.

Don’t worry we’ll have to wait a little longer because I’m sure he’ll be turned down soon.

Telling Alan that the exercise can have three answers does not make it true. Illustrating your point with incorrect sentences…well…I should stop here.

Hi Expatcat,

Your examples:

worry me a bit, I’m afraid. In using ‘turn in’ I think you have to say who is doing the ‘turning in’ - in other words mention the agent with the passive and I’m not really happy about the use of the future here. It is usually referring to what has happened or what happened as in: Charlie was turned in by his girlfriend and later arrested by the police. Again I think you have to specify in what way someone was turned down as in: I know he will be turned down for the job because he is not qualified enough.

Alan

Yes, I agree that my examples are not the best English. If I were trying to express those ideas, I would say:

Don’t worry, we might have to wait until someone turns him in. OR Don’t worry, we might have to wait but surely he will be turned in by someone soon.

I was trying to change Nabil’s sentences as little as possible to give them the meanings I assumed he intended.

Nice try, I cut the sentence because I’m not allowed to add anything to it, and because it’s easy to be understood in a friendly discussion.
But you can say: Don’t worry we’ll have to wait a little longer because I’m sure he’ll turn in soon by someone.
And don’t worry we’ll have to wait a little longer because I’m sure he’ll turn down soon this job.

Alain said: in other words mention the agent with the passive and I’m not really happy about the use of the future here.
Can you Alain give us a list of tense restriction about the passive form?

You can say it, but it doesn’t make it correct.

Maybe what Nabil has been trying to say is “He’ll turn himself in soon”. Nabil, I think you will be better off if you stay away from giving explanations when you don’t know what you are talking about. If you want to know something, please ask. If you are not sure about something, don’t pretend you are because this will confuse other learners. Many thanks.[YSaerTTEW443543]

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Hi torsten

I don’t confuse people, and I think my affirmations stimulate interrogations, and each one has his manner to express what he thinks ,and the rule of moderator here wasn’t ever an authority of language.
If you think what I write here is an offense or a threat you can ban it.

I asked a question, if you think you can answer it then I will be pleased.

Could you give us a list of tense restriction about the passive form?

It’s not offensive or threatening. At best it is misinformed. Otherwise it is simply incorrect.

What is a ‘list of tense restriction about the passive form’? Did you create this term yourself?[YSaerTTEW443543]

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Alain said: in other words mention the agent with the passive and I’m not really happy about the use of the future here. It is usually referring to what has happened or what happened as in.

Then I asked you because you asked me to ask: if you have any idea about the restriction of tenses in the passive form.
Because Alain has a doubt about using a passive form in the future tense in some cases.