Hey
First of all, all men are not the same. Why do you think like that? It sound someone has problem with her man!! (Kidding).
Subsequent, I don’t need my wife to serve food for me. I already have maid who make breakfast for me everyday and I missed the last 95 times as I don’t have time to eat breakfast but only coffee. I want my wife to bring happiness and love in my life (which I think is very hard for woman to do. They usually bring more trouble and I am not kidding in this one!)
In addition of that, I am not agreeing with you on being parasite of the society by not working like machines. Although I work more than 10hours a day which I really like it, I don’t believe that everyone should work so hard. I want my wife to have fun by shopping and handle my social life which I don’t have time for it so far. I think when you have enough money; you should learn how to spend it to having fun.
At last, don’t tell lie to your husband! It is not a good habit which all girls have. So you have to get this monkey off your back and tell him the truth. I thought only American and Iranian girls tell lie to their boyfriend (boyfriends) and husband.
In conclusion, I recommend you to give up your job and come to this forum and hang out with us!!!.
Hey you little creature with green sword, help me out in here!
Waiting for your reply
Ramin
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Well Ramin,
Our perceptoin of world is different, that’s why we don’t understand each other. As far as I’m concerned my function in life is not only to be a doll who goes shopping from morning till night, it’s soooo last century. I preffer to have my own money, to shop after work with my collegues, to gossip about real life not holiwood celebrities and to have my little girlish secrets and once in a blue moon afford white lies. I like to compete with my husband, though he always has priority, still I at last try to be better in some spheres, not to let him dominate in everything.
What concerns having servants at home I have my opinion. As long as I’m in good health and young, as long as I can think and learn I can do everything myself. We don’t have kids so there is not much work at home. If I demand from students to be hardworking and strong I can’t affort to be different. Besides my husband wouln’t eat something cooked by a stranger, he could let her/him wash and clean, but cooking for family is very personal and intimate process. We, Ukrainians, have our family traditions of cooking, baking and eating, so most clever women, even if they have career, cook (or at least try) to their dearest.
Besides it is worth mentioning, that I’m absolutely satisfied with being a teacher and usually I have a lot of free time for my family and friends. This summer is exception, because I work at special commission which registers students to be at the educational establishments. Our government is experimenting with reforms that’s why we have many unexpected problems. In my view it is boring to live like you describe, without downs we can’t appreciate ups and vice versa, but each man to his taste … We are masters of our destinies, aren’t we?
Hmm…this is a very intriguing conversation. Even though I’m not old enough to talk about these things from my own experience, I’d like to add my two cents (By the way is that the correct expression…coaches?).
In my opinion, one cannot argue about this topic as it depends heavily on the culture and religion of a place. To make assertions on a general basis may lead to sensitive topics like gender equality/inequality. An unequal division of daily chores in a matriarchy will often lead to disputes. Similarly, if a woman wants to stand up for herself in a patriarchy, she’ll be meet opposition from the other sex. Some religions offer more freedom to women compared to others. I also think it depends on the mindset of the married couple. If they are compatible, then these things generally become trivial…like my mom and dad 
And how do you expect your woman to make you happy? To blink her shallow eyes, smile and ask you to give some money? Such life proves to be boring, therefore women don’t have choice and start looking for lovers.
Suppose you go bust what will you do with a doll blinking her eyes asking money to do manicure or buy dress? Will you be happy?
Who told you that people should work like machines? People should work to be able to survive whatever happens - life is tough at times, you know, and you have to be on the alert
Expression is OK, 3Goblin.
You are right, eveything depends on culture and mentality. In my point of view the best society model is where woman is not a stupid doll, but partner, who is silent when necessary and speaks if situation demands.
Hey Bagheera301
I totally agree with you. I don’t like societies where women are subjected to the whims of the husband. This practice is prevalent in my country. I think women should be allowed to have a life of their own. The husband should take equal responsibility to make his wife happy, and not treat her as some amusement stuff he bought at an auction. Anyway, that is just my opinion.
Right, happy and beautiful life can’t be bought, it can be created by both, and you can’t achieve it overnight, it’s step by step process.
I’ve seen women getting highly educated and throw away their careers because the husband insists on her doing the household chores (that’s a long, convoluted, and ugly sentence…don’t you think). Such stories really sadden me. Imagine how a guy would feel if he had to stay at home after getting educated and look after the kids and stuff. Some people don’t care about that.
Hey bagheera
Some how I think you were very offensive in your message which is not essential. We can agree at disagree anytime. Although I don’t want to air my dirthy laundry in public, there are many real examples to support my idea. I think actions speak louder than words, you said “you had to tell lie to your housband!” This is not acceptable in any conditions. I don’t expect to hear lie from my close friends, how about my wife.
Moreover, I am not agreeing with you on competeing things in family. I think the members of a family are not copatitor. They are in the same team and they should divided the duety and share the things. I don’t have doubt to share my credit card with my wife. Actually she can be my card holder. Further when people get married in the USA, all their properties got shared by law.
Besides, I want to have a wife who has good taste of living. And by living I don’t mean only shopping. If someone need to have a chef it is better to hire a chef. I don’t want to get married to have someone to do my loundry or cook meal for me. I want to have someone who can add more to me. I think no one can get all dominante, so they need some one to add them up.
Best regards,
Ramin
hey ,
no comment on stupid doll. but please make it clear for us, in your point of view, housband is a partner or competitor ?
best regards,
Ramin
hey
I agree with you. I think housband and wife are free to do what ever they want. But think about the situation when they both work so hard to earn more money and tell lie to each other. Do you know what the worst part is? At night when they both get home tired and exuasted by hard work, they would find how their life is boaring.
And maybe this is not a worst part.maybe the worst part is, when the wife find out about her housband’s girl friend who is a STUPID DOLL by accident. All the time she was worry about earning more money and compiting in her life with her housband. He was thinking about having a good life with a stupid doll. He had more fun with stupid doll which is logically correct.
By they way, should I amit the word STUPID. Or maybe I can replace it with the words like FUNNY, LOVELY, etc.
Best regards,
Ramin
It’s both, in marriage it happens, though I don’t mean rivalry, I mean being top for someone you love. But you seem to misunderstand me.
Hey, [color=red]I didn’t mean to sound offensive I just expressed my own point of view and why you got so angry! I think exquisite taste doesn’t have anything common with doing nothing in life.[color=red]I’m awfully sorry to hurt your feelings, but you have your opinion - I have mine. No one asks you to agree.
For me ‘work is essential part of being alive, work is our identity’. The more I’m able to do the more I am a personality.
Take my sincere apology for misunderstanding!
You might be right, but all women want to be important, not just an objects to have fun with.
I agree that lie is not acceptable in marriage, but what I did was a white lie - I hate nagging and asking someone to give me a gold star for efforts. I try to be strong and solve my problems at work by myself. Is it that bad?!
Hey
Maybe you did not explain it well?
I am not angry. Vice versa, I am so happy to have a chance to argue in English with an English teacher. By they way, you did not hurt my feeling. I though you might be upset from me. This is why I told you we can agree at disagree and that doesn’t mean that I am agreeing with you. That is an expresion which means I don’t consider your idea in this case.
Best regards,
Ramin
PS: thank you to give me the chanse to argue with you. Please make you comment on my gramatical mistake aswell.
You are welcome,
To tell you the truth I don’t like to comment on mistakes, it’s not my prerogative here. Anyway there are very few of them, so let’s wait for Beverly, she is expert at correcting and explaining. I was in such a rush besides had rush of adrenaline that I think there are a lot of typos in my posts too.
Also I agree that arguing (not agressive) motivates language skills - it gives us the spirit of competition. And what is vital competiotion improves quality.
Hi Baghiee,
It doesn’t matter at all, but if you’re going to continue using my ‘real’ name you ought to know that the spelling is ‘Beverley’ (Spot the extra ‘e’).
There’s no need to wait for me, I’ve been here all along, following an interesting debate, but choosing not to enter into it.
Hi Ramin,
I wouldn’t interrupt, but by coincidence as you have let me know elsewhere that you’d like your posts corrected, here are my suggestions. As Bagheera says, there aren’t many mistakes:
I am not angry. Vice versa, I am so happy to have a chance to argue in English with an English teacher. By they way, you did not hurt my feelings. I thought you might be upset from with me. This is why I told you we can agree at to disagree and that doesn’t mean that I am agreeing with you. That is an expression which means I don’t consider your idea in this case.
Best regards,
Ramin
PS: Thank you for giving me the chance to argue with you. Please make you comments on my grammatical mistakes as well.
A clearer explanation of ‘agree to disagree’ (which I’m sure Bagheera understands anyway) is “I will tolerate your opinion and stop arguing with you about it because I know that we will never reach agreement about this matter.”
Good evening everyone!
LOL.
I will come back as soon as I can. I am soory that I am busy. The main reason that I cannot drop those line here, is that I have no proper Internet connection at my home in Tabriz. Otherwise, there is no such a big deal.
However, today, I managed to save all three last topics, 56, 57, and 58. I hope I write you some notes at hope.
P.S.
It is a relief that I am not so occupied execpt that military service issue.
Another news is that I am going to learn a new programming language, JAVA. Believe me! That is really so COOL!
Bagheera,
Once I wanted to call you, but a woman talked to me instead of you. Do you know who she was? She was talking English at the end of conversation. After some call again, I noticed that she is talking about that I have to call you later. Why…? I don not know. She did not let me to tell her that I want to hear Bagheera, instead of her! Could you please tell her to pass the record? LOL!
One of my friend is here, and I have to go.
So long…
Oops! Bee, how are you?
Ali, Ramin, Gheon, how are you, too?