Where did you find the examples?
In a BESIG conference in Vienna.
Hope we’re not back to you expecting me to answer all your questions and you going on to then avoiding answering mine.
This what I asked above?
Do you doubt that grammar writers can be so ridiculous in their explanations?
Are those the complete explanations?
They are indeed.
That was the whole chapter in each case?
Cf. the Natural History of Iceland, by Horrebow:
MrP
In each case of the above, just about.
Not even in a lawyer’s office? :shock:
It’s curious that neither example is to be found on any website other than this.
Is it possible that the person who presented you with these sentences had simply made them up?
MrP
Anything’s possible, Mr P. Same question as, twice, above: Do you doubt that grammar writers can be so ridiculous in their explanations?
And, Is it possible that many of the people who present “rules” in pedagogical grammars have simply made them up?
Any example of ‘such’?
I can see that you need to take this up with Mr Lewis. Go to:
Lighten up with linguistics
Yawn. No answer, again.
No answer to what?
And was this person, who possibly made up the sentences, a speaker at the conference?
MrP
It seems then that the speaker simply made them up.
File under “straw man”.
MrP
Why would you think he made them up?
When I asked if it was possible that the person who presented you with these sentences had simply made them up, you said “Anything’s possible”. Since the examples have not been quoted online, I’m inclined to think they’re imaginary.
MrP
And what makes you be so inclined? Are you so inclinded each time a friend tells you that it’s going to rain the next day? Do you need him to show you the weather report?
Speaking of “report”, would you say that sentence contains anything resembling “reported speech”? 
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