Was the word invented by standardists?
Do you doubt that Cockneys have such? Try Hollywood.
Was the word invented by standardists?
Do you doubt that Cockneys have such? Try Hollywood.
The word “correct” has a particular meaning, in relation to standard English. Naturally it means other things too, in other contexts.
Do you have an example of “Cockney used incorrectly”?
Do you doubt that Cockneys have such? Try Hollywood.
If you’re unable to find examples to support your argument, I’m not sure I’m obliged to do so.
But in any case, I expect you’re thinking of “incongruities”, rather than “Cockney used incorrectly”.
MrP
The word “correct” has a particular meaning, in relation to standard English. Naturally it means other things too, in other contexts.
Yes, we’ve established that, but I think you went wrong when you misinterpreted this use of “correct”:
Which is correct and why?
Them looking after the kids was a great help.
Them looking after the kids were a great help.
If you’re unable to find examples to support your argument, I’m not sure I’m obliged to do so.
If you’re unable to find proof to support “your” argument, I’m not sure I’m obliged to do so:
when speaking a non-standard variety one is not troubled with notions of correctness.
I think you went wrong when you misinterpreted this use of “correct”:
Which is correct and why?
Them looking after the kids was a great help.
Them looking after the kids were a great help.
Present your intended meaning, in that case.
MrP
Present your intended meaning, in that case.
Isn’t this clear enough for you?
Which is correct and why?
Present your intended meaning, in that case.
Isn’t this clear enough for you?
Which is correct and why?
If it means “Which is correct in standard English?”, perfectly clear. Otherwise, you will have to explain your meaning.
MrP
Otherwise, you will have to explain your meaning.
And why?
Since you wrote:
Which is correct and why?
Them looking after the kids was a great help.
Them looking after the kids were a great help.
but did not mean to refer to standard English, you presumably had some other context in mind.
How hard can it be to explain what that context was?
MrP
but did not mean to refer to standard English, you presumably had some other context in mind.
And why should I have intended to refer only to standard English?
but did not mean to refer to standard English, you presumably had some other context in mind.
And why should I have intended to refer only to standard English?
[immensely patient]
If you know that you did not mean standard English, you presumably know what you did mean.
It should therefore not be difficult for you to explain what you meant.
[/immensely patient]
(Rusty and Pete will be sorry to have missed this thread.)
MrP
[immensely patient]
Or patronising.
(Rusty and Pete will be sorry to have missed this thread.)
Your usual ploy is to post a link on other forums. Why not this time?
Let Rusty and Co. rename their forum “Standard English Language Questions”.
Your usual ploy is to post a link on other forums.
Do you have an example of such?
MrP
Molly:
Your usual ploy is to post a link on other forums.
Do you have an example of such?
MrP
Go seek one or two on:
MrPedantic:
Molly:
Your usual ploy is to post a link on other forums.
Do you have an example of such?
MrP
Go seek one or two on:
Your link brings up only a forum homepage.
(As I thought. No examples.)
MrP
(As I thought. No examples.)
Are you saying they don’t exist? Why would you need examples of your own posts?
(As I thought. No examples.)
Are you saying they don’t exist? Why would you need examples of your own posts?
I only get the Lydbury homepage, when I click on your link.
No posts. No examples.
MrP
I only get the Lydbury homepage, when I click on your link.
No posts. No examples.
Same question: Are you saying that you do not post links to my posts on other fora/ums?
Are you saying that you do not post links to my posts on other fora/ums?
Not at all, old thing. But that wasn’t quite what you said. Here is your original statement:
Your usual ploy is to post a link on other forums.
I’m interested to know what constitutes a “ploy”, in this context. Do you have an example?
MrP
I think you went wrong when you misinterpreted this use of “correct”:
Which is correct and why?
Them looking after the kids was a great help.
Them looking after the kids were a great help.
Don’t forget to explain why I “went wrong”; and what you intended your question to mean, if not “correct in standard English”.
MrP
Don’t forget to explain why I “went wrong”; and what you intended your question to mean, if not “correct in standard English”.
MrP
Did you miss this?
Q: When you ask if something is correct, by what standard do you expect an answer, if not standard English?
A: By the “standard” you think it comes from.