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I wasn’t trying to insult you. This zero-sum view of economics doesn’t apply in modern economies. That’s what I was trying to say.

If you read the business press in the US, Germany did great as long as it was following an American-style capitalist model, but since the 1950s, little by little, it has built such a huge socialist edifice, raised taxes so high, and made it so hard to start and run businesses, or even employ people, that things have broken down.

The current US and German systems don’t even really resemble each other. In Germany, a third of the workers between 50 and 65 are unemployed, not because they don’t want to work, not because they can’t find jobs, but because the law forbids the employers to hire them. If they are so disobedient as to get a job, the government taxes them so much that it’s not worth it. I got that from your own German press! It would be unthinkable in the US. And what about these Germans who are still in internships until they’re 30? What about the guys who will stay home and take government money for years instead of getting temporary jobs they think are below their educational level? What about the huge government fees for starting your own business there? These are all things that slow the German economy, and we don’t have them here. Germany does NOT have a US capitalist system!

We do that. The US is the world’s largest donor, although some Europeans look at phony statistics, because they think all of a country’s aid comes from the government. The problem is that in some of those countries the government want the people in certain regions to starve. Remember Live Aid in the 1980s? “We are the woooooorld…” That food never got distributed. In fact, the Ethiopian government forbade it. They even sold food to Egypt for arms. Sometimes governments don’t let it get distributed for other reasons, and often people in the foreign government just steal it.

Here’s a question for you: With all that oil Saddam Hussein was selling, why didn’t the United Nations make sure the Iraqi people got food and medicine? Why didn’t the UN Oil for Food program look after the distribution?

To me this is a typical German question. For some reason so many people in Germany think that everything everyone does is for money in their own pocket. That’s an attitude I expect from a country with the second lowest volunteerism rate in Europe.

In order to assure the food is distributed properly, we would have to invade and conquer all those countries. Then you would be angry at us for that. So, no matter what is done, it’s wrong.

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Jamie, EVERYTHING is about money!
Do you really believe every darn word the government says?
Do you really think Americans die every day over helping Irac? They die for money,for God’s sake!
Why America don’t give a darn about this situation in Libanon?
Man, these people first think of money, then make explanations, and you take them as reasons.
You should go to Irac, and ask the people THERE, not those ones who went to America.
It’s about weapons,but not the way you think.
America have a lot of them,right?
You got to use them sometimes,don’t you?
Otherwise some millioners have to go to work,don’t they?
You are a tipical American: the president is the man, my country is the best.
Your president is a politic, and he thinks as a politic.
He could’ve said: I’ll take over Irac, because I can, I ran out of oil, I got too much bullets, and this guy pisses me off anyway"
He says instead: "I really don’t want to do it, because it’s not nice, but he might have some weapons, at least I heard it he does, so we beter get them,before they get us, right? "
And what was he said after?
“Actually we didn’t find bombs, and stuff,but I told my scouts to look more carefully next time. By the way, we stay here a bit, just in case they want to come up again with something”
He could’ve squeezed a sorry somewhere in his speech, but I didn’t hear it.
If George is that smart, then what will the next step be?
According to your lines, they’re not welcomed there, and they never will be.
It wasn’t a good decision, just like the one before in Vietnam.
Anyway, we’ll see it later, it’s not worth to arguing over it, but let me say just one more thing.
You better try to be more open-minded, like those teachers in the movies, who saw through Nixon, and his branch.
Spencer

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(With no any generalisation): Jamie, it seems to me, you idealize your country (its social order, political structure and foregn policy) a bit too much.

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Okay, I take that. But I don?t think about a zero-sum economy but a 100 percent-one. Imagine you have a hand of gold-powder and hand it to another person. A bit (small bit) keeps left in your hand and that is your profit. Okay, that is materialistic thought but the mass of gold-powder you hand over will become smaller. So from what shall the receiver of the gold-powder replace the original mass? Might be that I?m old-fashioned but I cannot understand how to replace the old mass. Doesn?t that fit to money?

Might be that?s similar to Germlish. It always seems like the current governments try to imitate the US-economy and fail as certainly in Europe there are different basics from the US American. Or does they fail since they weren?t capable to learn it during almost 60 years?

I, myself, currently work below my education for a time-job-agency and I can tell you, that there are not people between 50 and 65 only since people below 40 years lost their jobs because of staff-reducing-politics of the firms. So far you?re right that it might be caused by the law, but also by the circumstance that Europian companies don?t want to be responsible for their doing and seem to want making the fast profit only and don?t think about the future. What Is the US way of managing with responsibility?

That?s possibliy the half of the truth only. On the efforts of companies to lower the costs of employment they offer saleries below 7 Euros an hour while requesting the employees to ride a way about more than 40 kilometers partly. It?s an example of calculation to take such jobs as you have costs about 10 Euros a day. So if you work 8 hours a day you can achieve a daily salery of 56 Euros. Subtract 20 Euros for taxes and social spendings and 10 Euros for your costs of the daily way there are 26 Euros left. Having 20 labour days a month you come to an sum of 520 Euros a month if you work 160 hours a month. Then you can imagine the reason why some people don?t take such works after possibly having studied. And there isn?t any way of changing that.

Jamie, I think you read a newspaper for self-employed. Right, the German government takes fees for everything and mainly small companies are concerned. What is more bad, is that the really big companies always are able to avoid the taxes and that because they could get national support to employ people whose tasks are to find out [color=red]how the company can avoid taxes and hire the staff. Can you believe that? And not even the government glamours with good example, quite the opposite.

Right, but the war in the Iraq left a bad taste from the US behaviour, since they first attacked the Iraq, when the Iraq threatened to invade Quwait.

That?s what you can experience every day here. Is there in your country any benefactor? I mean even that unities who sounds to be benefactors like the “Rotes Kreuz” or “Malteser-Orden” think about profit. Do you think that?s correct?

Michael

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[color=red]Hi Herc :wink:
First, I think the American people didn’t know all truths in the Middle East
And they think all Arabs or Moslems are terrorists…
That aren’t fault them but this it our fault, because we are (Arabs) thinking American people same Israel people.
All world heard Israel said: I am love peace and I want it but my neighbors are terrorists and they want to kill me so I must kill them before they kill me…

Mr. Jamie (K)
Did you really see the complete image in two your eyes? :wink:

You said:

Why we still until now all Iraqis want to finish the American occupation from their country.

You said:

Your country Mr. Jamie (K) had all kind of weapons and it always gives these weapons to Israel. I think you read that… the last news about two planes carry weapons from your country and send it to Israel. (I have question to you, did you think that right? And, why all countries in the world against that… except your country and Israel!).

You said:

I am very wonder… where are you Mr. Jamie (K) when started war in Iraq?!!! :roll:
I think your CNN in your country it is changing CNN in our country because your external minister said: Syria sent the weapons to Iraq but after they fail in found any nuclear weapons your country said: the weapons gone to Syria and Iran …
But your country used the satellite and showed the world belied photos and your president said: the CIA untruth with me and with all American people about these photos.

Yes, Saddam is the biggest war criminal like George Boach( thank my God because you didn’t know him) :lol:

About democracy yes you Right … the most Arabic countries have not democracy system but the change must come from in door not out door. :wink:
I have a question to you (did you like change your country system from another country?). :stuck_out_tongue:
And I can and anyone take to number of American people dislike the system.

Mr. Jamie (K) said:

This News from telegraph newspaper the Title was:
[size=150][color=blue]The children went to sleep believing they were safe. And then Israel targeted them as terrorists[/size]

And he terrorist

And they wronged

You can read it too.
Final I want to remember you (democracy your country in Iraq Abu-Greab prison)
And there are one country in the world don’t a fried form UN security council of course Israel with help your country)
Please, read all decisions UN Security Council & IAEA and tell how many decisions Israel refuse it.
Really I don’t heat & Syrian peoples anyone and we love American people and you are welcome in our country Syria. Mr. Jamie (K) comes to Syria and sees [color=red]truth. :roll: :shock:

Mba

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First of all , I never said that Saddam is good and we disagreed with his policy .
Secondly, I agree with what you wrote about Saddam " except the nuclear weapons part because it has never been found " , but I think it’s up to Iraq people to stand up to him or not and if there couldn’t do that then the UN should do that and not another country " USA" !!!
then , I need to know how and where you knew your wrong information " don’t tell me from your truthless american media :twisted: " …I told you that you should use your two eyes to see the truth , but sometimes I think somebody needs to glasses to help them … :lol:

anyway , I will help you to find the truth "even though you know every things " these links are about IAEA " I hope you know it too " and I have to tell you and help you to know its name "even though you know every things :lol: " :
The IAEA is: International Atomic Energy Agency . and you can use a big glasses or microscope to read it and hope you will understood it :

iaea.org/Publications/Magazi … _iraq.html
iaea.org/Publications/Magazi … .html#IAEA
iaea.org/Publications/Magazi … tml#limits

This is a small part of IAEA report about Iraq situation :
" The IAEA’s nuclear inspection and verification experience in Iraq stretches over a span of three decades, addressing activities from the mine to the weapon. Agency inspectors led the discovery and dismantlement of Iraq’s secret nuclear weapons programme in the 1990s, and after the 1990s round of inspections had stopped, they had found no evidence, up to March 2003, that the programme had been revived since 1998."

now , and after your reading the last text and the past links !!..
[color=red][size=200]can you tell me why USA destroyed Iraq country ??? [/size]

Thirdly, I don’t imagine someone lives in this world can accept foreign country to invade his country and make decision on his behalf " even you don’t accept another country to interfere in your democracy and your dignity …and…and…" !!! :!: :?:

Fourthly, every country has its experience of freedom and democracy " So there are types of democracy " and I don’t think any country should inforce its experience on others " .

Fifthly, I believe we should stand up against all weapons you have wrote about without discrimination …
So, USA , Russia , Israel :evil: :twisted: … don’t have the Right to obtain any of those And fight who tries to benefit from nuclear energy …

sixthly, I never heard your shorts story , However you shouldn’t connect Islam to terror ,cause the Islam order us not to kill civilians and there are some groups who want to deface this merciful religion " you should have know better "…!!

Hey Jamie , I hope you again to use your " both two eyes " … and that when you want to tell anybody the complete image and tell us the true story …

now… let’s move on to another subject

Good afternoon Jamie … what’s the roads like ?..
they’re so slippery… I know that
so be careful … my friend :wink: :lol:

Have a fantastic day

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Herc

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Hi Mba…

Have you heard that ?

The stupidest and the most terrorist doing is:

USA smart government sent to Lebanon " medicinal help" and sent to Israel " guns and explosives and bombs " to kill lebanese civilians … :shock:
Do you know that USA government policy is very beautiful as Its Foreign Minister beauty :lol: …

I think USA government think all nations are stupid " as it " but it ignores that the liberated world unmasked it and all bad and evil doings and that was since USA destroyed Iraq…
I hope you that you have read this information from " many true media :lol: :smiley: " Israeli and USA " !!! :x

Is it a kind of an american freedom or an american democracy ? :?: :!:
I think that … :cry:

Herc

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Hi,
Jamie has unfortunately( !!! ) right.
Please remember about the true !
Arab world is very different and very
hard to understand even for themselves.
Egypt was already very hard beaten by Israel Army and now they have peace if You want to have peace here you need to win again the war. Losers do not want to share any humiliating peace they want to have time to start killing again.

No justice , no peace

Jan