Articles or not? (I am Treasurer of the Scottish Cycling Council, etc...)

Do these need an article (e.g. the King of England, the father of…, the chairman of…")?

I am King of England.
I am Captain of Owsla.
I am Treasurer of the Scottish Cycling Council.
But I am victim of my own background.
“I am mother of the heir …”
I am father of four children.
I am chairman of the Africa committee of the British Refugee Council.

HERE are some comments.

Great. Thanks, but I’m also interested in the comments of the members of this forum.

Do you think they might be substantially different?


To me the whole point of the definite article is to specify or clearly define rather than to describe. Charlie is described as father of the bride but is introduced to someone as the father of the bride.


I agree. And Charlie, above can also introduce himself in the same way.

I’ve also heard introduction dialogues such as this one:

Haven’t you heard that type of exchange in BrEng, Alan?


That’s my point - these are descriptions rather than definitions - used in a somewhat contrived dialogue.


Contrived in what sense?

about articles.

Should I say: the main industries we supply are…
or: Main industries we supply are?

Thanks for your reply

Use ‘The main industries we supply’ because you are speaking of specific industries (= the ones that you supply).

thanks, Mr Micawber.
I should say I was pretty sure of that, but someone told me that since “industries” is plural, so the article is not needed.
I did not find this in my grammar, but I am always ready to learn.

Thanks again.

(pls advise me about any mistake in my msg)

Or talking about main industires as a compound noun.

e.g. We need to concentrate on main businesses in the area.

Main schools we recommend are…
Main businesses that consult us are…
Main businesses in this are are

Seems Ok without the article, IMO.


Nope, no good.

I agree with MM.


And how do you fell about these?

It seems to me that the article (or even “some of the” in some meanings) can indeed be ellipted in certain registers.

Those sound good in context. The first is a sort of abbreviated ‘headline English’. I see your point about compound nouns, but they sound unnatural out of context.

So you’d change this reply “Use ‘The main industries we supply’ because you are speaking of specific industries (= the ones that you supply).” to what?

I stand by my original opinion. They are specific, so use ‘the’. Your ‘compound noun’ does not apply here (as is the case with most of your thread contributions).

I’d say they sound quite natural in the business world.

How about these, with or without the article?

The bread we bake is made with organic flour.
Bread we bake is made with organic flour.